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	<title>Comments on: McCain Smacked Down by the Ladies of The View</title>
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		<title>By: John Bowes</title>
		<link>http://earthfirst.com/mccain-smacked-down-by-the-ladies-of-the-view/comment-page-1/#comment-3481</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bowes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheeshh....I signed on to get some great recycling tips and you guys actually believe the VIEW is a credible source to use to &quot;smack down&quot; John McCain?  What next, Whoopi Goldberg as a Foreign Policy Advisor?  Stick with EARTH FIRST....out of here....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeshh&#8230;.I signed on to get some great recycling tips and you guys actually believe the VIEW is a credible source to use to &#8220;smack down&#8221; John McCain?  What next, Whoopi Goldberg as a Foreign Policy Advisor?  Stick with EARTH FIRST&#8230;.out of here&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://earthfirst.com/mccain-smacked-down-by-the-ladies-of-the-view/comment-page-1/#comment-3403</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as someone who liked McCain before 2008, I must say that John Kerry did an excellent job of summing up why I use the past tense in his speech at the NDC.  Why couldn&#039;t he be that well-spoken in &#039;04?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as someone who liked McCain before 2008, I must say that John Kerry did an excellent job of summing up why I use the past tense in his speech at the NDC.  Why couldn&#8217;t he be that well-spoken in &#8216;04?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>back to the video, though, &quot;Judeo-Christian values were the foundation of the video&quot; was as far as I could watch.

He must have been lying when he said that he had read the writings of the founding fathers... Adams and Jefferson were particularly clear on the topic of religion.

Oh, and Abraham Lincoln wasn&#039;t a founding father.  Historically important, sure, but about a hundred years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>back to the video, though, &#8220;Judeo-Christian values were the foundation of the video&#8221; was as far as I could watch.</p>
<p>He must have been lying when he said that he had read the writings of the founding fathers&#8230; Adams and Jefferson were particularly clear on the topic of religion.</p>
<p>Oh, and Abraham Lincoln wasn&#8217;t a founding father.  Historically important, sure, but about a hundred years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://earthfirst.com/mccain-smacked-down-by-the-ladies-of-the-view/comment-page-1/#comment-3388</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa.  What Gideon lacks in eloquence, he (or she) makes up for in accuracy.  Incandescent &lt; CFL &lt; LED and CFLs have the most poison of the three.  Mercury is bad stuff.  If you read about how to dispose of a broken CFL, it&#039;s kinda scary (use tape to pick up any powder, don&#039;t touch it or breath near it, and let the area air out for at least a few hours!?!)

But in the end, LEDs&#039; only drawback is current cost.  Other than that, they&#039;re 10 gallons of kick-ass in a 5 gallon jug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa.  What Gideon lacks in eloquence, he (or she) makes up for in accuracy.  Incandescent &lt; CFL &lt; LED and CFLs have the most poison of the three.  Mercury is bad stuff.  If you read about how to dispose of a broken CFL, it&#8217;s kinda scary (use tape to pick up any powder, don&#8217;t touch it or breath near it, and let the area air out for at least a few hours!?!)</p>
<p>But in the end, LEDs&#8217; only drawback is current cost.  Other than that, they&#8217;re 10 gallons of kick-ass in a 5 gallon jug.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shea - As to your non-response on CFLs. For your correct information, because apparently your sources get it wrong, LED (light emitting diodes) lighting uses 1/10 of the energy that CFLs do. And no, the consequences behind CFLs go much deeper than if you are stupid enough to lick  a broken one. From Snopes&quot;
Like batteries, used CFLs need to be disposed at a toxic waste depot rather than tossed out with the ordinary household trash. Because mercury is cumulative, this poisonous element would add up if all the spent bulbs went into a landfill. Instead, the mercury in dead bulbs is reclaimed at such depots and recycled.&quot;
Seriously, where do you get your information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shea &#8211; As to your non-response on CFLs. For your correct information, because apparently your sources get it wrong, LED (light emitting diodes) lighting uses 1/10 of the energy that CFLs do. And no, the consequences behind CFLs go much deeper than if you are stupid enough to lick  a broken one. From Snopes&#8221;<br />
Like batteries, used CFLs need to be disposed at a toxic waste depot rather than tossed out with the ordinary household trash. Because mercury is cumulative, this poisonous element would add up if all the spent bulbs went into a landfill. Instead, the mercury in dead bulbs is reclaimed at such depots and recycled.&#8221;<br />
Seriously, where do you get your information.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shea- if you will even publish this comment (I see you have resorted to giving up because you are fighting an argument you can&#039;t win) then please tell me why your beloved Democrats are flip flopping? I suppose you will now be for drilling won&#039;t you? Hehehe...it is even supported by your dear Ms. Pelosi.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703425.html?hpid=topnews

Greenspeechie - Thank you for your insight. I love arguments that appear to be based on fact rather than opinion and hate speech like Shea&#039;s. As for Obama, I did spend my time on Snopes. That is why I don&#039;t bring up points like him being a muslim or him removing the flag from the tail of his airplane. Although there is evidence leading that direction, the argument is not strong enough for me. Obama being liked as the candidate of choice and having support thrown his way by terrorists is true. The fact that Islamic groups are publicly asking the terrorists to quiet themselves is also true. And the fact that Barack was raised in a home where the predominant belief is Marxist is also true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shea- if you will even publish this comment (I see you have resorted to giving up because you are fighting an argument you can&#8217;t win) then please tell me why your beloved Democrats are flip flopping? I suppose you will now be for drilling won&#8217;t you? Hehehe&#8230;it is even supported by your dear Ms. Pelosi.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703425.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703425.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
<p>Greenspeechie &#8211; Thank you for your insight. I love arguments that appear to be based on fact rather than opinion and hate speech like Shea&#8217;s. As for Obama, I did spend my time on Snopes. That is why I don&#8217;t bring up points like him being a muslim or him removing the flag from the tail of his airplane. Although there is evidence leading that direction, the argument is not strong enough for me. Obama being liked as the candidate of choice and having support thrown his way by terrorists is true. The fact that Islamic groups are publicly asking the terrorists to quiet themselves is also true. And the fact that Barack was raised in a home where the predominant belief is Marxist is also true.</p>
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		<title>By: greenspeechie</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenspeechie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, Barack Obama has problems with his plans, too. They’re just smaller problems than McCain’s. More oil won’t get us very far at all, and don’t even get me started on McCain’s choice of running mate, the woman who can’t even decide what she thinks about global warming and doesn’t consider the polar bear endangered. (Or at least she didn’t–she changes her mind about something every thirty minutes or so, so it’s sometimes hard to tell what her opinions are.)

And spend a little bit of time on Snopes and you’ll realize that not everything you hear about Obama is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, Barack Obama has problems with his plans, too. They’re just smaller problems than McCain’s. More oil won’t get us very far at all, and don’t even get me started on McCain’s choice of running mate, the woman who can’t even decide what she thinks about global warming and doesn’t consider the polar bear endangered. (Or at least she didn’t–she changes her mind about something every thirty minutes or so, so it’s sometimes hard to tell what her opinions are.)</p>
<p>And spend a little bit of time on Snopes and you’ll realize that not everything you hear about Obama is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gideon If you defend your incredible level of naiveté for thinking John McCain would do anything other than finish the job that Bush has started in destroying our great nation, I&#039;ll defend my position against your linked-to non-issue. Why do you hate America so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gideon If you defend your incredible level of naiveté for thinking John McCain would do anything other than finish the job that Bush has started in destroying our great nation, I&#8217;ll defend my position against your linked-to non-issue. Why do you hate America so much?</p>
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		<title>By: Shea Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Butch, I don&#039;t live and die for your comments. 

But since you&#039;re begging for a response... 

Yeah, there&#039;s a small amount of mercury in CFL bulbs. As long as you don&#039;t do something stupid like lick up a broken CFL bulb you should be ok. 

If you compare the entire life cycle of a CFL bulb vs. a standard incandescent you see that the old fashion bulb contributes way more mercury to the environment due to the mercury released when coal is burned. 

There are legitimate concerns with properly disposing of CFL bulbs, but I often find that the issue is usually brought up by ignorant screeching right wing blowhards trying to waste our time. it&#039;s like Offshore Drilling, a non-issue that gets the right all hot and bothered in thinking they&#039;ve &quot;got&quot; us on something. 

It&#039;s lame, weak, and indicative of your general inability to actually lead this country in the right direction. Your side has run things for the past 8 years and managed to nearly ruin this country while destroying the grand ol&#039; party. Enjoy the next 16 years of living on the margins. It&#039;s going to be a blue November. 

(And dude, spell check is your friend).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Butch, I don&#8217;t live and die for your comments. </p>
<p>But since you&#8217;re begging for a response&#8230; </p>
<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s a small amount of mercury in CFL bulbs. As long as you don&#8217;t do something stupid like lick up a broken CFL bulb you should be ok. </p>
<p>If you compare the entire life cycle of a CFL bulb vs. a standard incandescent you see that the old fashion bulb contributes way more mercury to the environment due to the mercury released when coal is burned. </p>
<p>There are legitimate concerns with properly disposing of CFL bulbs, but I often find that the issue is usually brought up by ignorant screeching right wing blowhards trying to waste our time. it&#8217;s like Offshore Drilling, a non-issue that gets the right all hot and bothered in thinking they&#8217;ve &#8220;got&#8221; us on something. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s lame, weak, and indicative of your general inability to actually lead this country in the right direction. Your side has run things for the past 8 years and managed to nearly ruin this country while destroying the grand ol&#8217; party. Enjoy the next 16 years of living on the margins. It&#8217;s going to be a blue November. </p>
<p>(And dude, spell check is your friend).</p>
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		<title>By: Butch Jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Butch Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The silence is defening, I hope that you are working on rebuting my post on CFl&#039;s. Let me stear you in the direction of the industry source. Look at Electrical Contractor magazine, that should give all you suedo environmentalist a good wake up call. It sucks being on the wrong side of the issue when you think you aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The silence is defening, I hope that you are working on rebuting my post on CFl&#8217;s. Let me stear you in the direction of the industry source. Look at Electrical Contractor magazine, that should give all you suedo environmentalist a good wake up call. It sucks being on the wrong side of the issue when you think you aren&#8217;t.</p>
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