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	<title>Comments on: ‘New Urbanism’ Taking Over the Suburban American Dream</title>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me an insensitive middle class white guy...  but I&#039;m in favor of an economic shift that prevents that lady in the apartment complex from DRIVING TO THE GYM THAT IS IN THIS COMPLEX from her apartment.  

But in any case, what might happen is a shift to more light commercial zoning in residential areas for retail shops and other employment opportunities and such.  If there&#039;s a corner market a few blocks away, then even a suburban townhouse doesn&#039;t have to have three cars.  I&#039;m rooting for the rezoning option.  It&#039;ll be better for suburbs, cities, and everyone living in either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me an insensitive middle class white guy&#8230;  but I&#8217;m in favor of an economic shift that prevents that lady in the apartment complex from DRIVING TO THE GYM THAT IS IN THIS COMPLEX from her apartment.  </p>
<p>But in any case, what might happen is a shift to more light commercial zoning in residential areas for retail shops and other employment opportunities and such.  If there&#8217;s a corner market a few blocks away, then even a suburban townhouse doesn&#8217;t have to have three cars.  I&#8217;m rooting for the rezoning option.  It&#8217;ll be better for suburbs, cities, and everyone living in either.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Rogers</title>
		<link>http://earthfirst.com/%e2%80%98new-urbanism%e2%80%99-taking-over-the-suburban-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Holly - that&#039;s what I mean by hoping that cities retain diversity - there needs to be a variety of housing for all income levels so that the poor aren&#039;t completely pushed out.  Hopefully by then, public transportation systems will have seen vast improvement as well, so that the people who do remain in the suburbs can get to work, the grocery store, etc.

I think part of the point of the CNN piece was that public perception of the &#039;American Dream&#039; is changing, and the suburbs may lose their place to &#039;New Urbanism&#039;.  I don&#039;t think that wealthy people will completely abandon suburbs, and I certainly hope that suburbs don&#039;t get taken over by poor people with nowhere else to go and abandoned by a society focused on dense urban living.  I would imagine that there will be a lot of effort in many cities to provide affordable housing for all income levels.  

But, I also agree with the CNN author&#039;s opinion that many large suburban houses will be turned into multi-family homes because of the simple fact that many people won&#039;t be able to afford having such large homes all to themselves anymore (not only will they be unable to afford it, but it just makes more sense for people to downsize to conserve resources).  It&#039;s just like many Victorian-era neighborhoods all over the country, where those huge houses have been turned into apartment buildings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Holly &#8211; that&#8217;s what I mean by hoping that cities retain diversity &#8211; there needs to be a variety of housing for all income levels so that the poor aren&#8217;t completely pushed out.  Hopefully by then, public transportation systems will have seen vast improvement as well, so that the people who do remain in the suburbs can get to work, the grocery store, etc.</p>
<p>I think part of the point of the CNN piece was that public perception of the &#8216;American Dream&#8217; is changing, and the suburbs may lose their place to &#8216;New Urbanism&#8217;.  I don&#8217;t think that wealthy people will completely abandon suburbs, and I certainly hope that suburbs don&#8217;t get taken over by poor people with nowhere else to go and abandoned by a society focused on dense urban living.  I would imagine that there will be a lot of effort in many cities to provide affordable housing for all income levels.  </p>
<p>But, I also agree with the CNN author&#8217;s opinion that many large suburban houses will be turned into multi-family homes because of the simple fact that many people won&#8217;t be able to afford having such large homes all to themselves anymore (not only will they be unable to afford it, but it just makes more sense for people to downsize to conserve resources).  It&#8217;s just like many Victorian-era neighborhoods all over the country, where those huge houses have been turned into apartment buildings.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure the people with good jobs can afford to move into the cities and buy a nice condo.   But what about the poor people that were living in the city before it was &quot;revitalized&quot;.   They use to live in those rundown apartments before they got turned into high-end condos.  The lower income families get pushed out into the suburbs, and forced into buying cars they can&#039;t afford, let alone put gas in.  The poor are now living in neighborhoods that have little to offer in support and jobs since everyone is flocking to the city and whose food pantries start to run dry as there is a higher demand  and less people able to give. I am all for people living in smaller more urban homes and communities, but to really improve as a community all people must be part of the solution.  Not just pushed to the side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure the people with good jobs can afford to move into the cities and buy a nice condo.   But what about the poor people that were living in the city before it was &#8220;revitalized&#8221;.   They use to live in those rundown apartments before they got turned into high-end condos.  The lower income families get pushed out into the suburbs, and forced into buying cars they can&#8217;t afford, let alone put gas in.  The poor are now living in neighborhoods that have little to offer in support and jobs since everyone is flocking to the city and whose food pantries start to run dry as there is a higher demand  and less people able to give. I am all for people living in smaller more urban homes and communities, but to really improve as a community all people must be part of the solution.  Not just pushed to the side.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark.

In large cities, like NYC, Chicago, Seattle, etc. that won&#039;t be necessary, but in smaller urban centers, many cities have laws (such as max height of buildings) that would make high density housing developments difficult to build unless the laws were changed.   Not all cities were built to have a large number of occupants.

The speculation that &#039;McMansions&#039; in the suburbs will be divided up for multi-family housing comes from several experts including Arthur C. Nelson, director of Virginia Tech&#039;s Metropolitan Institute.  That&#039;s not only due to families moving to cities, it&#039;s also due to the current mortgage crisis.  Suburbs are being abandoned at pretty startling rates across the country, leaving these houses in disrepair.  The trend will probably lead not just to higher density populations in cities but in suburbs, as well, with fewer people owning large homes by themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark.</p>
<p>In large cities, like NYC, Chicago, Seattle, etc. that won&#8217;t be necessary, but in smaller urban centers, many cities have laws (such as max height of buildings) that would make high density housing developments difficult to build unless the laws were changed.   Not all cities were built to have a large number of occupants.</p>
<p>The speculation that &#8216;McMansions&#8217; in the suburbs will be divided up for multi-family housing comes from several experts including Arthur C. Nelson, director of Virginia Tech&#8217;s Metropolitan Institute.  That&#8217;s not only due to families moving to cities, it&#8217;s also due to the current mortgage crisis.  Suburbs are being abandoned at pretty startling rates across the country, leaving these houses in disrepair.  The trend will probably lead not just to higher density populations in cities but in suburbs, as well, with fewer people owning large homes by themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain what you mean by this:

&quot;governmental regulations and zoning laws will have to be adjusted to allow for high-density developments&quot;

At first, you were saying that suburbanites are going to be flocking back to city centers. If that&#039;s the case, why would re-zoning be necessary? Cities are zoned for density. 

Do you really believe that &quot;McMansions&quot; are going to be subdivided for poor families in the wake of a mass exodus of wealthy families to the cities? That seems pretty far-fetched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain what you mean by this:</p>
<p>&#8220;governmental regulations and zoning laws will have to be adjusted to allow for high-density developments&#8221;</p>
<p>At first, you were saying that suburbanites are going to be flocking back to city centers. If that&#8217;s the case, why would re-zoning be necessary? Cities are zoned for density. </p>
<p>Do you really believe that &#8220;McMansions&#8221; are going to be subdivided for poor families in the wake of a mass exodus of wealthy families to the cities? That seems pretty far-fetched.</p>
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